Exploring Concordium, The Future of Blockchain Identity

Exploring Concordium, The Future of Blockchain Identity

In this episode of the Crypto 101 Podcast, Concordium CEO Boris Bohrer-Bilowitzki joins the conversation for a wide-ranging discussion on where blockchain adoption has stalled, why identity and verification are now unavoidable, and how Concordium is deliberately positioning itself for real-world use.

The conversation cuts through market noise and price action to focus on fundamentals: why smart contracts failed as custodians, why most tokenized financial products remain unusable, and why privacy-preserving verification is emerging as the critical missing layer between regulation and adoption.

Below is a distilled, section-by-section summary of the discussion, capturing the key insights, concrete examples, and strategic signals shared during the session.

1. Introduction

  • 1 Introduction
    • Crypto 101 Podcast, sponsored by Concordium
      • Guest: Concordium CEO **Boris “Triple B”** Bohrer-Bilowitzki
  • Framing of the episode:
    • Focus on builders shaping the next phase of crypto
    • Direct insights from leadership, not speculation
  • Context set:
    • End of 2025
    • Year described as highly volatile but fundamentally positive
    • Combination of:
      • Positive regulation
      • Major catalysts
      • Black swan events
  • Key message:
    • Despite volatility, real progress has been made
    • Sets expectation for a substantive, forward-looking discussion

2. Boris’ background and entry into crypto

  • Boris has spent nearly 20 years in finance and infrastructure
    • Experience spans hedge funds, brokerage, M&A backend, and asset management
  • Entered crypto in 2017, describing himself as a latecomer
  • Sparked by the first line of the Bitcoin whitepaper:
    • “Global electronic peer-to-peer cash”
  • Background in finance made him focus on:
    • What money is
    • How value is exchanged
    • How broken real-world payment and settlement flows are
  • Observed that everyday transactions (e.g. buying coffee) hide:
    • Enormous complexity
    • Inefficient and fragmented infrastructure
  • Always infrastructure-driven rather than product or trading-focused
  • In 2018, became:
    • Founding partner
    • Chief Commercial Officer at Copper
  • At Copper:
    • Built large-scale institutional crypto infrastructure
    • Solved off-exchange settlement problems
    • Launched ClearLoop as a flagship product
    • Processed hundreds of billions in monthly trading volume
  • Through Copper, worked with many major foundations
    • Concordium stood out as technically unique
  • Noted that Concordium’s code was highly regarded by engineers
    • Built by top cryptographers
    • Founded by Lars Seier Christensen, former CEO of Saxo Bank
  • Interest in Concordium persisted over time
  • Left Copper as it scaled:
    • Prefers building early-stage systems over operating large organizations
  • Took over as Concordium CEO in September
  • Concludes by noting:
    • A lot is happening in crypto
    • Much appears chaotic on the surface
    • Underneath, the direction is relatively clear if you look beyond noise

3. 2025 context and cycles: why this year mattered

  • 2025 described as a wild but constructive year
    • High volatility
    • Ongoing flow of new catalysts
    • Mix of positive developments and setbacks seen as normal for a young industry
  • Crypto and blockchain infrastructure evolve through cycles and friction
    • Progress requires speed bumps and experimentation
  • Boris’ long-term perspective:
    • Lived through 2008 financial crisis, recovery, and subsequent asset boom
    • Experienced multiple crypto cycles without being phased by volatility
  • Cycle recap from an infrastructure lens:
    • 2018: widespread belief crypto was “over” after the crash
    • 2021: DeFi summer, rapid user growth, experimental innovation
    • 2022: excessive leverage and systemic failures
      • Collapse of major players (e.g. FTX, Celsius)
      • Cascading effects across the ecosystem
  • Current cycle observations:
    • Boris holds strong personal views on where the market stands
    • Finds certain recent events “weird,” particularly October 10
      • Expected visible blow-ups that never materialized
      • Stablecoins trading at par for too long seen as structurally flawed
  • Core concern is adoption, not price:
    • Industry performance on adoption has been poor
    • Grassroots narratives repeat what was already said in 2021
    • Monthly active dApp users have been flat for 3.5–4 years
  • Key takeaway:
    • Stagnant user growth is not accidental
    • There are structural reasons the industry has failed to onboard new users at scale

4. The adoption problem: what the market is missing

  • Adoption, not price, is the real issue
    • Bitcoin succeeded as a store of value and should be treated separately
    • Broader crypto technology adoption has stalled
  • Core problem: tooling
    • Nothing has been built for genuine real-world users
    • Industry talks about adoption but designs for insiders
  • Current onboarding model is fundamentally broken:
    • Explaining seed phrases is a non-starter
    • Telling users all funds are lost if keys are lost is unacceptable
    • Expecting users to understand blockchain mechanics is unrealistic
  • Users do not understand legacy finance either
    • They do not know how stock settlement works
    • They do not know how payment rails function
    • Yet those systems work because complexity is abstracted away
  • Crypto fails to abstract complexity
    • Especially around issuance and usage
    • Smart contracts increasingly act as custodians, creating systemic risk
  • Key principle:
    • Blockchain is here to be used, not understood
  • Industry mistake:
    • Designing for people who enjoy complexity
    • Relying on concepts like DeFi Lego and yield farming
  • Mainstream users behave differently:
    • Even Apple Pay took time to be adopted
    • Average users will not manage seed phrases or operational risk
  • Result:
    • Real-world users stay out
    • Large chains struggle to pivot toward adoption
  • Root cause points back to:
    • Poor abstraction
    • Misuse of smart contracts
    • Tooling built for crypto natives, not the real world

5. Concordium 101: what it is and how it addresses those issues

  • Many people are still unfamiliar with Concordium, but that is expected to change
  • Concordium is built around two core pillars
  • Pillar 1: Identity
    • Shaped by extensive interaction with regulators
    • Regulators’ primary role is protecting retail users
    • Regulation is often heavy-handed, but directionally necessary
  • Core design choice:
    • Users identify themselves once when entering the ecosystem
    • All subsequent interactions are privacy-preserving
    • Enabled through zero-knowledge proofs
  • Zero-knowledge identity was built early:
    • Designed in 2016–2017
    • Mainnet launch in 2021
    • Market timing was early, which hurt perception at the time
  • Despite early timing, Concordium performed relatively well compared to the broader crypto market
  • Problem Concordium targets:
    • Every digital service today requires repetitive onboarding
    • Proving age or eligibility forces users to overshare personal data
    • Passports and IDs expose far more information than necessary
  • User reality:
    • People do not want to reveal full identities for simple access or payments
    • This aligns with cypherpunk values
  • Regulatory reality:
    • Identity enforcement is unavoidable
    • Sometimes justified, sometimes excessive
  • Concordium’s approach:
    • Zero-knowledge–based verification
    • Proof of attributes, not disclosure of identity
    • Works for both access and payments
  • Outcome:
    • Privacy preserved
    • Regulatory requirements satisfied
    • Friction reduced for real-world users

6. Protocol-Level Tokens and why smart contracts failed

  • Concordium introduced Protocol-Level Tokens (PLTs) to address systemic failures in smart contracts
  • Root problem observed across the industry:
    • Most major hacks and fund losses stem from smart contract vulnerabilities
    • Smart contracts have been pushed into acting as custodians
    • Funds routinely sit inside contracts for trading, escrow, or scheduled payments
  • This contradicts the original promise of crypto:
    • “Programmable money” was meant to reduce trust and custody risk
    • Instead, contracts became high-risk custodial containers
  • Concordium’s architectural shift:
    • Issuance happens at the protocol level, not inside smart contracts
    • Programmability is embedded directly into the token itself
    • Smart contracts are used for conditional logic, not custody
  • Combining PLTs with identity enables:
    • Travel rule compliance by default
    • Age-verified payments
    • Geofencing and jurisdictional controls
  • Practical outcome:
    • Reduced attack surface
    • Lower systemic risk
    • Clear separation between money, logic, and custody
  • Adoption signal:
    • Despite limited visibility, ~10 stablecoin issuers already operate on Concordium
    • Focus on compliance-oriented stablecoins
  • Broader design philosophy:
    • Privacy does not mean total transparency
    • Financial transactions should not be publicly exposed by default
    • Different use cases require different transparency levels
  • Strategic shift highlighted:
    • Past cycles focused on onboarding retail users
    • Next phase is intentional onboarding of businesses
    • Concordium positions itself at the intersection of:
      • Privacy
      • Compliance
      • Real-world financial use cases

7. Flipping the strategy: targeting Web2 and high-risk verticals

  • Boris states that Concordium is “flipping this on its head”
  • Criticizes ecosystem tribalism:
    • ETH maxis, Solana maxis
    • Little user movement between ecosystems
    • Altcoins largely doing the same thing “in different colors”
  • Emphasizes that users are the core issue
    • Competing on speed, memes, or narratives does not change adoption
  • Notes that Web3 users are also Web2 users
    • But the Web2 user base is much larger
  • Concordium’s approach:
    • Focus on onboarding users without mentioning crypto or blockchain
  • Gives concrete example:
    • Recent work in the adult content industry
    • Large industry that people use but rarely discuss openly
  • Highlights regulatory pressure:
    • Regulators are now enforcing age restrictions
    • Privacy is required for adoption
  • Makes a clear distinction:
    • Privacy is necessary
    • Anonymity is not acceptable to regulators
  • Repeated onboarding is identified as a major cost center
    • Compliance and back-office work dominate traditional finance
  • Concordium’s positioning:
    • Not trying to “revolutionize Wall Street”
    • Focused on bringing users into an ecosystem first
  • Target use cases mentioned:
    • Adult content
    • Gaming
    • Gambling
    • Social platforms
  • Real-world regulatory examples:
    • Social media age restrictions in Australia
  • User requirements:
    • Users want access without revealing:
      • Name
      • Address
      • Exact birthdate
    • Regulators require more than a simple “I’m over 18” button
  • Boris states:
    • The solution was presented to Ofcom
    • Feedback was strongly positive
  • User flow described:
    • Download the Concord ID app
    • Complete verification
    • No crypto references
    • No seed phrases
  • Result:
    • Users create a personal identity
    • Interact in a privacy-preserving way using zero-knowledge proofs
    • Without explicit awareness of being in a Web3 ecosystem

8. The mechanics of zero-knowledge verification

  • Question focuses on how identity verification actually works
    • Whether a third party verifies first
    • And what happens afterward on the blockchain
  • Boris explains the flow:
    • Third-party identity providers verify documents
    • They confirm the document is valid and belongs to the user
  • What matters happens after verification:
    • On the user’s device, an identity is cryptographically hashed
    • The hash is bound only to the user’s wallet
    • No passport or ID data is stored on-chain
  • Interaction model:
    • Blockchain checks specific attributes, not full identity
    • Example checks:
      • Is the user over 18? Yes or no
      • Is the document UK-issued? Yes or no
    • Zero-knowledge proofs return answers without revealing details
  • Key principle:
    • Identity is verified once
    • No repeated sharing of documents across services
  • Host explores broader applications:
    • Security clearance
    • Verified credentials
    • Email or agent verification
    • Attribute confirmation without exposing underlying data
  • Emphasis on data minimization:
    • Even in a data leak, sensitive personal details are not exposed
  • Examples discussed:
    • Airports and fast-track security
    • Approval-based access without revealing identity
  • Boris confirms this matches Concordium’s design:
    • No face scans
    • No biometric databases
    • Pure attribute-based proof
  • Strategic clarification:
    • Concordium is not trying to compete directly with Ethereum or Solana
    • Focus is on bringing users into an ecosystem
  • Existing distribution mentioned:
    • Partnerships with wallets such as Ledger and bitcoin.com
    • Tens of millions of users already in scope
    • Wallet-based verification is coming live in early 2026
  • Core user preference reiterated:
    • Users want access without exposing full identity
    • Privacy must coexist with regulatory requirements
  • Final position:
    • Full anonymity is incompatible with real-world regulation
    • Regulators will not abandon KYC and AML
    • Zero-knowledge verification is presented as the practical compromise

9. Balancing privacy with regulation

  • Full anonymity is unrealistic due to bad actors
  • Regulation and traditional financial systems are not going away
  • Crypto adoption requires coexistence, not replacement
  • Privacy and integration must be balanced to achieve scale

10. Financial innovation: yield and smart contract safety

  • Yield-bearing and tokenized stablecoins exist but lack adoption
  • Core reason: they do not solve for the time value of money
  • Many tokenized products are securities:
    • Subject to strict regulation
    • Limited onboarding
    • No secondary markets
  • Result:
    • Institutions default to traditional money market funds
    • Tokens cannot be actively used
  • Root cause identified:
    • Smart contracts acting as custodians
    • Funds locked without productive use
  • Concordium’s approach:
    • Programmability at the protocol level
    • Smart contracts used only for conditional enforcement
  • Key principle:
    • Smart contracts should not custody funds
  • Time-based transactions matter:
    • Deposits
    • Deferred payments
    • Conditional settlement
  • Protocol-level issuance enables:
    • Safer programmable money
    • Yield with real utility
  • Combined with identity:
    • Regulatory onboarding
    • Geofencing
    • Institutional compliance
  • Focus is not competing on TVL:
    • Goal is enabling usable, compliant financial products

11. Concrete use cases: gaming, gambling, adult, and social

  • Question focuses on which sectors adopt first
  • Boris states adoption starts with high-risk verticals
    • Gambling
    • Gaming
    • Adult
    • Social platforms
  • These sectors:
    • Are global
    • Have massive user bases
    • Move faster under regulatory pressure
  • Gaming highlighted:
    • Enormous global reach
    • Historically lacked suitable infrastructure
    • Now becoming viable again
  • Live traction:
    • Ongoing discussions with gaming companies
    • In-game purchases moving to Concordium
    • Age gating is a key requirement
  • Shift from abstract to practical:
    • Money is used inside ecosystems
    • Not as a speculative asset
  • Social and adult platforms face:
    • Increasing age-verification enforcement
    • Large fines for non-compliance
    • Examples include Australia and US state-level restrictions
  • Regulation applies to:
    • Users
    • Content creators
    • Entire payment flows
  • Concordium enables:
    • End-to-end compliant payment flows
    • Verification baked in at the base layer
  • Infrastructure emphasis:
    • Fixed transaction fees
    • Predictable costs
    • No congestion-driven fee spikes
  • Business case:
    • Reducing regulatory risk has direct economic value
    • Compliance costs outweigh transaction costs
  • Go-to-market model:
    • Open-source integration
    • Low friction for businesses
    • Revenue driven by:
      • Users
      • Partnerships
      • Revenue sharing
  • Strategic positioning:
    • Focus on real economic activity
    • Not transaction spam or yield farming
  • Closing tone:
    • Long-term, ground-up adoption
    • Built with businesses, regulators, and real users

12. Recent milestones and strategic partnerships

  • Boris says the first major milestone was a full restructuring of the organization
    • New management team
    • Reset of priorities
  • Core technical milestone:
    • Protocol-Level Tokens (PLTs) were built
    • Protocol-level issuance did not exist before
  • After PLTs:
    • Focus shifted to building an ecosystem around them
  • Primary ecosystem focus:
    • Payment Service Providers (PSPs)
    • PSPs sit in front of thousands of merchants
  • Real-world pressure point identified:
    • PSPs are seeing revenue drops due to age gating
  • Boris describes the three age-verification options merchants face:
    1. Upload passport
    2. Selfie with AI age estimation
    3. Anonymous verification
  • Clear insight:
    • Users overwhelmingly choose anonymous verification
    • This is where users are actually captured
  • Important distinction:
    • No crypto, wallets, or swapping mentioned at onboarding
    • User enters first, crypto stays invisible
  • Timeline:
    • First three quarters of the year were mostly quiet building
    • Most announcements happened in Q4
  • Wallet integrations highlighted:
    • bitcoin.com
    • Ledger
    • Safle
    • Coin98
    • ~110 million users in aggregate
  • Broader vision for identity:
    • One-time KYC
    • Reusable across services
    • Example: instant bank account opening via QR scan
  • Exchanges and other ecosystem players:
    • Also came together mostly in Q4
  • Forward-looking signal:
    • Boris is most excited about Q1 and Q2
    • January to March expected to be significant for adoption
  • Closing note:
    • Many developments still upcoming
    • More to be revealed publicly over time

13. What Concordium aims to be known for

  • Boris’ core ambition:
    • Concordium as the privacy-preserving verification layer
    • For both the traditional world and crypto
  • Verification is not chain-exclusive:
    • Concordium identity can be used across other chains
    • Verified address = verified transaction
  • Explicitly not competing with Ethereum or Solana
    • No interest in fighting L1s on their own terms
  • Regulator-facing role:
    • If verification is required for a use case
    • Concordium provides it
  • New development highlighted:
    • Work with the ERC-402 / x402 Foundation
    • Focused on agent payments
    • Verifying that agents are human-approved
  • Positioning crystallised:
    • Verification layer
    • Smart money layer
    • Built for real-world use
  • Privacy momentum noted:
    • Privacy is coming back into focus
    • Strong renewed attention in the sector
  • Key distinction stressed:
    • Privacy ≠ anonymity
    • Fully shielded systems are not regulator-compatible
  • Requirement for adoption:
    • Balance privacy with compliance
  • Concordium’s differentiation:
    • Identity on the base layer
    • Protocol-level issuance
    • Reduced reliance on smart-contract custody
  • Implication:
    • Enables new forms of DeFi without custodial smart contracts
  • Final conviction:
    • Zero-knowledge was the original promise of crypto
    • The industry is reverting back to it
    • Privacy with compliance is the only viable path forward